I usually don’t directly respond to other posts and stuff, but this will be an exception. Don’t worry, it’s still related to Warcraft, healing AND Druidom (kinda)
WoW.com currently has a post in their Officer’s Corner series right now, referring to the problems that a guild has had with a new deaf member in their ranks.
Or to be more specific, the problems that a guild has with not being total and complete jerkwads.
In short, a guild had a rule that you had to be on vent in order to receive loot. They recruited a Resto Druid, who happened to be deaf, making Vent pointless. It went fine for a while, as he was an amazing player, until they hit problems, and they scapegoated said Druid for all their failures and basically ran him out of the guild.
There are quite a few problems here, so let me go by them one by one.
The first, is why they had the rule in the first place:
A little background information on the guild, since it is relevant, is that we have a strict rule involving loot due to some people in the past who have abused our requirement for Vent in that they wouldn’t use it, or they’d log in but leave their headsets off. This caused a lot of problems with wipes and caused the officers, GM and co-GM to agree that a rule would be made that was you must be in Vent and actively listening at all times during a raid in order to be eligible for loot. This is what caused the initial problem.
Ok. I like using Vent. It makes explaining things a lot easier, and to be honest, I find it fun. But if there was a reason that someone couldn’t vent, as long as they performed well, it shouldn’t be a problem.
But these folks were consisted of people who thought they were above the rules. Not that there was some technical difficulty or limitation or whatever, they just through they were better than that.
This is pretty bad. But I wouldn’t blog about that.
It gets worse. Much worse.
We’d had a meeting about it a few nights ago and asked the guild for input on our various rules and any they felt needed to be changed, and a few other things. We used this as a quiet way to find out how people felt about the Vent rule. As it turns out, of the 24 raiding members, 15 of them felt that this healer’s inability to hear us calling out for heals or battle rezzes had caused a number of wipes and the fact he was able to get gear was just an abuse of the system.
Let me repeat that. Because it bears repeating. /LewisBlack
15 of them felt that this healer’s inability to hear us calling out for heals or battle rezzes had caused a number of wipes
Let’s get something straight. Calling for heals….makes you a very special type of person. A VERY special type of person. The type of person that myself, who normally is the most pleasant, agreeable, non-violent person…would like to wring your neck. Calling for a battle rez is bad enough. Generally speaking I think people mean well, but usually healers are well aware that someone is laying on the ground face down. Probably more aware than you are. Sometimes druids will call chain rezzes or something like that. And in the heat of the battle, things can happen, you know?
But calling for heals? I’ve seen people do that before. It really irritates the hell out of me. It’s generally a display of entitlement and arrogance, that you should be put in front of the line for heals whenever you mess up. And that’s the thing. People I like don’t do this. Good decent people don’t do this. So please. Don’t do that.
Don’t be those guys.
Just as an addition, I’ll point out that my guild is great and nobody does that. And if we did have somebody who did do that I feel comfortable enough in telling them to not do that, as in we have a whole grove of healers (and non-healers!) who will tell people to NOT DO THAT. Also, there are exceptions to the rule, but you’re not calling for heals, you’re informing your healers of changes in situation. Like if you have to run through the big ooze slimes in Rotface. We healers really appreciate a heads up on that.
7 responses to “Don’t be those guys!!”
Dinaer
August 17th, 2010 at 00:33
Spot on.
In my younger days of raiding, I remember calling out for a heal. Then, right after I said it, I realized that no one ever did that (well, no one I respected, anyway). I also realized that a heal was already incoming when I had opened my mouth.
So I quickly learned to shut up and trust my healers.
I could do my job without vent if I had to. That said, its good to raid with vent, if only to hear the calm voice of the raid leader and the jesting from the healing grove.
Cheres
August 17th, 2010 at 03:45
When we were running BWL there wasn’t much tank swapping on bosses. One tank held the dragons/giant dogs and you healed him. In some cases we had a healing rotation for the tank so we were healing no one else at all. And even then there was this one druid that would yell HEAL BRAHMA. Really? I had no idea that was what I was supposed to do. Thank you Captain Obvious.
argathne
August 17th, 2010 at 06:03
Oh this is so true man. When people call for heals it just bugs me. I somtimes even act like I can’t hear them and dont toss a heal. I haven’t experianced the battle res one because….. I cant do that (Damn your super ressing) But I have had times where in pugs people call out for bubbles because they thought “My Holy shock would take too long to hit them”
Cheres
August 17th, 2010 at 13:44
Oh dead people after the fight are fun. “Rez me” . I think no.
argathne
August 18th, 2010 at 18:09
Oh. I hate that also. It’s like they think we don’t know their dead. I somtimes just let them sit there. But other people wreck my fun and res them =(
Kaethir
August 19th, 2010 at 17:10
Actually I think there should be people calling out for brezzes.
They’re called Raid Leaders; when shit happens they try to direct you to what is the best course of action for the good of the raid.
That aside, regarding the meat of the post…
Being deaf is a definite disadvantage – but that just means your guild should *work* with you. Get someone assigned to feed you important info/strats/etc, who will macro things they need to tell you mid-combat like brez or whatever. running you out of the guild for it is crap.
TheGrumpyElf
September 10th, 2010 at 19:23
Wow, that is horrible.
Firstly, I have a rule, if anyone calls me for a heal I do not heal them that time and the next time I notice they need a heal (unless everyone else is already topped off). Let someone else play their lap dog. When I play my healer I know my job is to heal. You do not need to remind me of that. If you are so damn special that you want to make sure you are always the first person that gets a heal then roll a healer and heal yourself for an entire raid.
Secondly, if someone needed a battle rez I am going to guess that means someone is dead right? I know, its a stretch but I’ll roll with that assumption. So, if the raid leader says, rez the lock, the dead person has the time to type, rez me. They are dead, it is not like that are so damn busy doing anything else but bleeding all over the floor. Everyone in the raid should know that there is someone not on vent (with a damn good reason) and that some things will need to be conveyed via in game chat.
As a raid leader I would gladly take along someone that was deaf as long as they where a good raider. If they where on time, prepared, knew their role well and performed it without flaw I can over look the fact they can not be on vent (or even hear for that matter) and I would adjust. Not really all that hard.